Post by Elizabeth on Mar 22, 2018 13:37:34 GMT -8
I wasn't comparing those who haven't heard of Yeshua to Cain. That's why I said "even that" because I didn't want it to come across that way. It was meant as an example of how we can question G-d's wisdom if we start thinking about things from what we view as fair. People blame G-d for what they are born as, blame Him they're born, blame Him they have freedom to choose, blame Him they don't have choices, blame Him for the consequences of their choices, and blame Him for what He does even if they claim He doesn't exist, and so on. It was an example of where our ideas of fair can lead us. Well if G-d knew, then why.... We can't answer those questions, but we can know G-d took it all into consideration before we were even born and simply knows more than us.
I also am not going around condemning people by telling them the truth. I spoke up because I just don't want believers lulled into silence or unbelievers false hope because that in my mind would ultimately be condemning people. G-d is in control and our job is simple but hard because we are helping prepare the way by making a divide, that's the point.
I don't feel solely responsible for everyone throughout time and place to hear the truth, but I do feel responsible for calling out what I believe are dangerous ideas within the believing population because we as a body are responsible for the Gospel across time and place. We each do what G-d calls us to do and the Gospel is spread according to His wisdom and way. That's one reason I am so adamant about this. I am saved because Jewish people, who died for the sake of the Kingdom, wrote and spoke the truth to me. I can't help but feel obligated to do the same if and when I can for them.
I didn't mean to attack your friend. That statement jumped out at me because that idea has popped up here and there and has worried me for a while. This was in response to more than His statement so sorry all of it it seems to be heaped on him.
I simply believe Israel is specifically attacked by evil as the promises of G-d are fulfilled through them , and I believe the idea that they don't need Yeshua is a part of that.
Sorry to offend anyone, but it's more important to me to make this statement because I do feel an obligation as a believer in Yeshua blessed by Israel to somehow give back. I don't feel right to be blessed by Israel and then turn around and fail them by dismissing Who Yeshua is because of how much they have done for me. That's what it would feel like to me. I don't want to offend, I want to say thanks and step up for the people I know from the scriptures who belongs to them and I know wants so much for them. They may not be on earth but I am, and I know they had Israel in their heart and mind so I feel obligated to do what I can. That included calling out what I believe is a false teaching that hinders their chance of salvation.
I also am not going around condemning people by telling them the truth. I spoke up because I just don't want believers lulled into silence or unbelievers false hope because that in my mind would ultimately be condemning people. G-d is in control and our job is simple but hard because we are helping prepare the way by making a divide, that's the point.
I don't feel solely responsible for everyone throughout time and place to hear the truth, but I do feel responsible for calling out what I believe are dangerous ideas within the believing population because we as a body are responsible for the Gospel across time and place. We each do what G-d calls us to do and the Gospel is spread according to His wisdom and way. That's one reason I am so adamant about this. I am saved because Jewish people, who died for the sake of the Kingdom, wrote and spoke the truth to me. I can't help but feel obligated to do the same if and when I can for them.
I didn't mean to attack your friend. That statement jumped out at me because that idea has popped up here and there and has worried me for a while. This was in response to more than His statement so sorry all of it it seems to be heaped on him.
I simply believe Israel is specifically attacked by evil as the promises of G-d are fulfilled through them , and I believe the idea that they don't need Yeshua is a part of that.
Sorry to offend anyone, but it's more important to me to make this statement because I do feel an obligation as a believer in Yeshua blessed by Israel to somehow give back. I don't feel right to be blessed by Israel and then turn around and fail them by dismissing Who Yeshua is because of how much they have done for me. That's what it would feel like to me. I don't want to offend, I want to say thanks and step up for the people I know from the scriptures who belongs to them and I know wants so much for them. They may not be on earth but I am, and I know they had Israel in their heart and mind so I feel obligated to do what I can. That included calling out what I believe is a false teaching that hinders their chance of salvation.
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