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Post by Questor on Apr 24, 2014 16:27:29 GMT -8
I have been learning Hebrew, and have advanced to the point that i can read, write, and prounouce Hebrew characters and words accurately, if I have the vowel points...which is what I wanted in order to learn to read the Scriptures in Hebrew...particularly since there are Hebrew Brit Hadashah's available now.
I have wasted a ton of money trying to get past just the basic Hebrew...most of what is sold, software, and books, even for children stops at the point of learning to recognize Hebrew charactors, and use the vowel points to pronounce them. Then they go immediately to travel dialogue and memorization, as if learning a few modern phrases will help me understand sentence structure, and so forth.
I have attempted to get the simplistic 1st, 2nd, and 3rd grade reading books so I can learn how Hebrew is put together in sentences...yes, I can read scripture, and translate it, word by word, but that gives me very little satisfaction, as I do not understand how the words are put together.
If I cannot read Hebraic Literature, I will never understand the mindset behind it, and I do not know where to get the simple schoolbooks that presumably children in American Synagogues are taught to read from, and Hebrew Children's books.
I did manage to get the Cat in the Hat books in Hebrew, and I find that these are above my understanding!
I need the "See thingy Run," books...but where do I get them?
HELP!!!
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Post by alon on Apr 24, 2014 22:24:21 GMT -8
I have been learning Hebrew, and have advanced to the point that i can read, write, and prounouce Hebrew characters and words accurately, if I have the vowel points...which is what I wanted in order to learn to read the Scriptures in Hebrew...particularly since there are Hebrew Brit Hadashah's available now. You're doing better than I have been able to do. My mind is so fogged any more from medical conditions and worse, meds, that I am still learning "English as a second language!" (My first being akin to what you'd say to an infant.) Yeah, a lot of what is out there is overpriced and underproductive. Perhaps learning modern Hebrew would help you get a feel for this. It should then be easy to translate this skill to biblical Hebrew. Just a thought. Try American synagogues. Use discretion in telling them you are Messianic, but many rabbis (at least from the more liberal synagogues) are helpful when us heathens want to learn about their culture. I once went to one in Spokane for information regarding the Passover Seder some years back, and the rabbi there was both cordial and helpful. Ouch!  Maybe you can get the rabbi to pray for you while you're there!  Dan C |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 4:42:40 GMT -8
Hi Questor,
You may want to try the Jewish communities to see if they could help you to locate the information that you need. As Alon stated you need to approach them in a way that you want to learn of their culture, etc. I don't believe that they would give you a Hebrew bible or information without not knowing what your motive is.
Here where I am we have two Jewish communities. One is more stricter than the other. The strict one teach their children at home or they homeschool them. They teach them at an early age about the Hebrew language, however not sure which books they are using to teach from.
Moriah Ruth
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Post by Questor on Apr 25, 2014 22:13:31 GMT -8
I have been learning Hebrew, and have advanced to the point that i can read, write, and prounouce Hebrew characters and words accurately, if I have the vowel points...which is what I wanted in order to learn to read the Scriptures in Hebrew...particularly since there are Hebrew Brit Hadashah's available now. You're doing better than I have been able to do. My mind is so fogged any more from medical conditions and worse, meds, that I am still learning "English as a second language!" (My first being akin to what you'd say to an infant.) Yeah, a lot of what is out there is overpriced and underproductive. Perhaps learning modern Hebrew would help you get a feel for this. It should then be easy to translate this skill to biblical Hebrew. Just a thought. Try American synagogues. Use discretion in telling them you are Messianic, but many rabbis (at least from the more liberal synagogues) are helpful when us heathens want to learn about their culture. I once went to one in Spokane for information regarding the Passover Seder some years back, and the rabbi there was both cordial and helpful. Ouch! Maybe you can get the rabbi to pray for you while you're there! Dan C Do they lay hands as well for healing?
Odd, I never thought that since I tithe to a largish Messianic Synagogue (With a BOOK STORE!) in Dallas, Texas. I might try calling them and seeing what I can arrange...they are about a thousand miles from me, but isn't that what the internet is for? And Skype? All I have to do is remember the days they are closed, and the time difference.
Alas that dictionaries do not teach all the forms of the words...and translators, even the best of them only translate one word at a time, and don't necessarily tell me how to read it. So I have tons of duplicated software, and I can't read the instructions without translating them first! Still, I daresay I will use it all some day. The children's audio teachings in Hebrew are so quickly spoken that I have trouble keeping up, but they don't provide a transcript. And tech support is out of the question...I just wait for eMails that never get answered.
Oddly, just picking out a word at a time in Scripture is much easier, but even then I have to look at each translated word at a time, and study the English Translation, hoping for help from the Ruach. But some of the words are repeated a lot, which helps.
As for the meds...I know what you mean...I went off most of my pain stuff and all my muscle relaxants to clear my mind enough to remember, and thus learn. And then found some of the other medications could go away too, since there were bad side effects now showing without all the other stuff covering it up. I find that the pain meds don't do very much anyway, unless you want to be stoned...or go to sleep. You still hurt, but you care about it less! So I hurt a lot more, but at least I can think. I am very sure it makes me critical and grouchy when people interupt my concentration, because when I am concentrating, I don't listen to the pain signals as much! Thus, I have a great desire for silence around me.
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Post by Questor on Apr 25, 2014 22:18:33 GMT -8
Hi Questor, You may want to try the Jewish communities to see if they could help you to locate the information that you need. As Alon stated you need to approach them in a way that you want to learn of their culture, etc. I don't believe that they would give you a Hebrew bible or information without not knowing what your motive is. Here where I am we have two Jewish communities. One is more stricter than the other. The strict one teach their children at home or they homeschool them. They teach them at an early age about the Hebrew language, however not sure which books they are using to teach from. Moriah Ruth
I'm glad I remember where I send my tithe! I don't think about them much as they are so far away, but there are none really close by here either.
I'll have to do a lookup on Synagogues as well...would Reform be nicer to my Hebraic Aspirations, or Conservative/Orthodox I wonder. Odd that any Jew would not want someone to learn from their schoolbooks...in Hebrew...after all, do they not want people to get their viewpoint? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 15:31:54 GMT -8
Questor,
I don't think it is so much that they do not want to share their viewpoints to the rest of the world, I think it has something to do with how their viewpoint is used and believed. Many of the Jewish theology, philosophies and writings has been so much misused down through the centuries by the rest of the world. Most is used against them for anti-Semitic reasons or foolish beliefs. So if I were in their shoes I would be a bit leery also. I would want to know why others desire such information and for what reasons. Trust would have to be established first and then they would probably share more with that person who is seeking their culture, faith and beliefs. This is just my thought on the matter.
Moriah Ruth
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Post by Questor on Apr 26, 2014 18:04:25 GMT -8
Questor, I don't think it is so much that they do not want to share their viewpoints to the rest of the world, I think it has something to do with how their viewpoint is used and believed. Many of the Jewish theology, philosophies and writings has been so much misused down through the centuries by the rest of the world. Most is used against them for anti-Semitic reasons or foolish beliefs. So if I were in their shoes I would be a bit leery also. I would want to know why others desire such information and for what reasons. Trust would have to be established first and then they would probably share more with that person who is seeking their culture, faith and beliefs. This is just my thought on the matter. Moriah Ruth |
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