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Post by Zardoz on Feb 7, 2010 19:45:54 GMT -8
Flippant comments don't mix well with study, but to be expected I guess given your previous mocking tone regarding Sages.
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Feb 8, 2010 0:21:50 GMT -8
No, I haven't read the authors you mention. I do read the Tanakh and the Brit Chadashah and I see no indication that angels were consulted in the creation process; but I do see that all things were created through and for the Son, with no reference to angels (Colossians 1:16). Thanks, but since rashi wasn't there, I'll pass. Sha'ul wasn't there either, but you apparently see him as an authority on the , since you quoted him. Sha'ul is hardly the only qualified Rabbi to offer midrashim on the creation account. Why limit yourself in understanding Scripture?
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Post by zionlion on Feb 8, 2010 11:02:08 GMT -8
Paul was in covenant fidelity with Elohim and had been indwelt with the Ruach (the Spirit of Truth); two things which can't be said of rashi.
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Feb 8, 2010 16:14:28 GMT -8
Paul was in covenant fidelity with Elohim and had been indwelt with the Ruach (the Spirit of Truth); two things which can't be said of rashi. I'm sure you and I will differ in our opinions on the purpose of Ruach indwelling. But that's another topic entirely. I do have a question for you though regarding your statement that Sha'ul was indwelt by the Ruach. Did that happen before, or after Sha'ul directly disobeyed the Ruach HaKodesh? [Acts 20:22-24, Acts 21:4-15] It is not my intention to defame Sha'ul. However, he's just a man, and not divine. Same as Rashi, who you have judged unworthy of a covenant relationship with HaShem, as well as not possessing the spirit of truth.
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Post by zionlion on Feb 8, 2010 18:08:06 GMT -8
I think you've answered your own question. Since Paul was just a man and not divine, he was capable of disobeying the Spirit, just like you and me.
What covenant did rashi have with Elohim?
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Feb 8, 2010 19:09:32 GMT -8
I think you've answered your own question. Actually, I didn't. I didn't even attempt to. I asked your opinion on the matter. Pretty simple. What covenant did rashi have with Elohim? According to Scripture there's only one eternal covenant, and it's the same covenant that is available to all who will submit to it. Be it Rashi, Sha'ul, or you and I. As a side note: the word covenant does not appear in plural form anywhere in the Tanakh. It only appears in plural form three times in the Brit Chadasha. Once it used in an allegorical sense [Gal 4:24]. And twice it is mistranslated in it's plural form [Rom 9:4 & Eph 2:12] which should be in the singular. There's only a single eternal covenant, although HaShem has revealed more of it as a progressive revelation [Gal 3:15-29]. The Sinai covenant is an addition to the covenant HaShem made with Avram, but it's still one and the same covenant. By the way, which of Rashi's work, and how much of it have you studied to place judgement upon him, as well as his works? By all means, be specific.
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