Can We Do Better?

[zionlion]

One thing that has always bothered me, even before I learned about being -observant, are believers who own businesses and don't close on the Sabbath - or, for "Christians" who have taken it upon themselves to change the Sabbath, to at least close on Sunday.

There was a restaurant in my city owned by evangelicals that was open 7 days. I realize that much of this is due to ignorance but these people weren't new believers and should have known better. Maybe they did know better but put higher value on money than honoring Elohim.

Things like this are a bad witness. Why should we expect unbelievers to take the things of Elohim seriously when believers don't?

We can be much more effective when people see that we do what we say and are not hypocrites. Let's all strive to be better at living and speaking biblically. Sincerity in word and practice is important.

[lawrenceofisrael]

Yes you are right dear brother. In a world that lacks morals but rather conducts any kind of abomination, sin, worship of false god´s etc we should be eager to changer our hearts and our actings. I have a lot things to work on as well. That´s also a reason why we should unite more effectively and this forum is one step towards it.
Actually we should think about living each and every single day as if we´d die tomorrow.

May peace and blessings be upon you for being a believer and for striving towards obedience.
Shalom

[zionlion]

Shalom lawrenceofisrael,

Thank you for the kind words.
I too have a lot to work on.

One of my uncles had ancestors from Hamburg.

May Elohim bless and keep you.

In Yeshua

[yeshuafreak]

well, i dont think that jobs should close on sunday "six days shall thou work." it doesnt say 5. we should observe Shabbat. i agree completely.

shalom

[alon]

Aug 21, 2009 15:13:45 GMT -8 zionlion said:

One thing that has always bothered me, even before I learned about being -observant, are believers who own businesses and don't close on the Sabbath - or, for "Christians" who have taken it upon themselves to change the Sabbath, to at least close on Sunday.

There was a restaurant in my city owned by evangelicals that was open 7 days. I realize that much of this is due to ignorance but these people weren't new believers and should have known better. Maybe they did know better but put higher value on money than honoring Elohim. ...

Once you've bought into our own authority to change God's Word, even to rewriting and reinterpreting the Ten Commandments, it is easy to justify any other infractions we wish. Sin sears consciences, even if it is sin that has been taught to us so long we think it righteousness. These days you'd be hard pressed to find a Christian who doesn't know Sunday is the first day of the week and "Saturday" is the seventh- even if they may not know Shabbath is Fri sundown to Sat sundown. Some know the convoluted argument for the change, others do not, but all know it was changed by men. So they won't admit it, but they know they are in the wrong. After accepting this lie, it is easy to further lie to themselves and say it is OK to work on "The Lord's Day" (AND Shabbath!) as long as______________ (fill in the blank- no wrong answers there either!).

Dan C

[Questor]

Jul 26, 2014 20:53:57 GMT -8 alon said:

Aug 21, 2009 15:13:45 GMT -8 zionlion said:

One thing that has always bothered me, even before I learned about being -observant, are believers who own businesses and don't close on the Sabbath - or, for "Christians" who have taken it upon themselves to change the Sabbath, to at least close on Sunday.

There was a restaurant in my city owned by evangelicals that was open 7 days. I realize that much of this is due to ignorance but these people weren't new believers and should have known better. Maybe they did know better but put higher value on money than honoring Elohim. ...

Once you've bought into our own authority to change God's Word, even to rewriting and reinterpreting the Ten Commandments, it is easy to justify any other infractions we wish. Sin sears consciences, even if it is sin that has been taught to us so long we think it righteousness. These days you'd be hard pressed to find a Christian who doesn't know Sunday is the first day of the week and "Saturday" is the seventh- even if they may not know Shabbath is Fri sundown to Sat sundown. Some know the convoluted argument for the change, others do not, but all know it was changed by men. So they won't admit it, but they know they are in the wrong. After accepting this lie, it is easy to further lie to themselves and say it is OK to work on "The Lord's Day" (AND Shabbath!) as long as______________ (fill in the blank- no wrong answers there either!).

Dan C

And Shabbat was always the textual case for obedience to the Scriptures. Still, I much preferred the days when people took even a Sunday seriously, calling it the Sabbath, and turning their faces from the world for that day. There was at least an attempt at keeping the moral laws laid out in the , and to take G-d seriously.

The grace message that is preached so hard, is yet only taken as a 'blankie' that a child sleeps with, when he is two years old, and afraid of the dark.

These days, I have trouble looking at the world and it's doings for all the wrongness I see, and all the people that think themselves safe in their church's teachings, because they will not open their hearts and minds to the Scriptures, and the teaching of the Ruach haKodesh.

I think that in times soon ahead of us those that relish the Scriptures, and find themselves out of tune with their churches will find themselves alone, but for a Bible and a few Believing friends. I think this is why Yehoshua was so much in doubt when He said,

6 Then the Lord commented, “Notice what this corrupt judge says.
7 Now won’t God grant justice to his chosen people who cry out to him day and night? Is he delaying long over them?
8 I tell you that he will judge in their favor, and quickly! But when the Son of Man comes, will he find this trust on the earth at all?” Luke 18:6-8 (CJB)